tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6821404280357387696.post4127485013845665415..comments2024-01-24T09:23:30.924-05:00Comments on Kitchens Are Monkey Business: Clam Chowder. Version 1. Hatteras Style.Rosie Hawthornehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01665045940767129770noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6821404280357387696.post-83552878043898168892011-11-03T15:50:05.819-04:002011-11-03T15:50:05.819-04:00I think you have a very valid pig point there, Swe...I think you have a very valid pig point there, SweetPhyl.<br /><br />Just found this:<br /><br />Clams and oysters were consumed in such quantities along the Atlantic coast by the American Indians that, in some favorable gathering-places, empty shells were piled into mounds ten feet high. According to the book Eating in American - A History, by Waverley Root and Richard de Rochemont:<br /><br /> The Northeastern Indians made considerable use of fish, but the Pilgrims were slow to follow their example; they did not care much for fish, except eels . . . Fish chowder was a popular dish among Northeastern Indians, but as this dish has been created spontaneously, in one form or another, along every coast in the world, we can hardly credit the Indians with having introduced it to Europeans . . . Clams became accepted to them in time, but it is on record that in 1620s the Pilgrims fed clams and mussels to their hogs with the explanation that they were "the meanest of God's blessings."Rosie Hawthornehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01665045940767129770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6821404280357387696.post-12930070553870640062011-11-03T15:39:42.690-04:002011-11-03T15:39:42.690-04:00Yeah, but I bet it took a southerner to put PIG in...Yeah, but I bet it took a southerner to put PIG in it! LOLSweetPhylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14121812564974389493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6821404280357387696.post-59491855336852823932011-11-03T15:24:06.482-04:002011-11-03T15:24:06.482-04:00SweetPhyl, the word quahog comes from the Narragan...SweetPhyl, the word quahog comes from the Narraganset Indian word poquauhock. And the Narragansets are a Rhode Island tribe, descendants of the aboriginal people of the state of Rhode Island. Oral history and archeological evidence establishes their existence in this region more than 30,000 years ago. They had two homes - a winter home and a summer home. The winter home was a long house in which up to 20 families lived. In the summer they moved to the shore where they lived in wigwams. It's entirely possible they could have come up with a clear clam chowder. Sorry if I'm busting your bubble here.Rosie Hawthornehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01665045940767129770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6821404280357387696.post-49644056799971492672011-11-03T13:12:46.633-04:002011-11-03T13:12:46.633-04:00Heya Rosie--interesting story about Hatteras style...Heya Rosie--interesting story about Hatteras style chowder. A few years ago I was on a Chowhound Board and we were discussing the different chowders. I boasted about my preference for a Hatteras style chowder and included the description as a clear browth chowder with potatoes, bacon etc. Well, a Yankee jumped all over me calling it a Rhode Island style chowder and that I was spouting a form of culinary sacrilidge by calling a clear broth chowder Hatteras style when it actually originated in Rhode Island. Well, we "discussed" it a bit and then he referred me to Wikipedia, for G*d's sake! I ended the discussion with "birthplace of America" and "lost Colony" stuff stating that we probably did it first and just there were more people in the north east who claimed it to be the birthplace of clear broth chowders, doesn't make it so. And stomped away from the discussion and refused to type anymore.<br /><br />Knowing your fondness for food history, I was wondering if you knew of such balderdash as being true. I find it hard to believe Rhode Island thought of it before our hearty early Outer Bankers.SweetPhylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14121812564974389493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6821404280357387696.post-58896040521896912162011-11-02T19:04:12.337-04:002011-11-02T19:04:12.337-04:00I was never a fan of Family Guy until stuck on a 1...I was never a fan of Family Guy until stuck on a 15 hour flight to China where I watched the Family Guy parody of the first Star Wars...one of the funniest things I've seen in a long, long time. Mr Hawthorne should keep an eye peeled out for it.E. A. Marionnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6821404280357387696.post-41708116547908323762011-11-02T17:26:24.726-04:002011-11-02T17:26:24.726-04:00I just went back and read some because the word &q...I just went back and read some because the word "Quahog" caught my attention. In Family Guy, (the animated show... I know you don't watch it but it's pretty funny and at least Mr. H should watch it...) anyways, the town in the show is Quahog and the bar Peter frequents is the Drunken Clam! I always wondered what that name meant. Thanks!!! :)dhnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6821404280357387696.post-87883170981942717342011-11-02T17:21:07.912-04:002011-11-02T17:21:07.912-04:00Wish I cared for chowder. Just wanted to suggest: ...Wish I cared for chowder. Just wanted to suggest: the Rosie "Hawtline" ;)DHnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6821404280357387696.post-450239850682190642011-11-02T15:25:22.276-04:002011-11-02T15:25:22.276-04:00I'm using clam juice in the next chowder - the...I'm using clam juice in the next chowder - the New England style which is creamy and which I prefer.<br />I contemplated using my shrimp stock, but this was Mr. Hawthorne's party and he doesn't let me play. I ended up using the shrimp stock in a heavenly shrimp etouffee I made when Mr. H. was out of the kitchen. Posts to follow.Rosie Hawthornehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01665045940767129770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6821404280357387696.post-7889816489731205222011-11-02T11:49:51.080-04:002011-11-02T11:49:51.080-04:00Clam juice was added. Remember it was frozen insid...Clam juice was added. Remember it was frozen inside the clam shell and added to the pot.<br /><br />MR. HAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6821404280357387696.post-6058756771696441812011-11-02T10:56:06.771-04:002011-11-02T10:56:06.771-04:00Rosie Rides Again! Thanks for the best explanation...Rosie Rides Again! Thanks for the best explanation I've seen and nowhere else have I read about freezing them. The ones I got were evidently cherrystones. We steamed them first and they threw off a lot of wonderful broth (not much meat). Interesting about the Hatteras chowder - looks good, but I'm surprised you used chicken broth instead of clam....btw the sainted MFK has a wonderful anecdote about oyster stew made with broth or water - more "oystery"....The ever-alert Marionnoreply@blogger.com